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2 much double tasking, should read my pos...Errata:<br /><br />2 much double tasking, should read my posts before sending. Bunches of typos inc. the experience I mention in my 1st post took place 13 years ago not 3. Cheers -Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-85572297389415954822011-03-23T13:39:59.406-07:002011-03-23T13:39:59.406-07:00Evelyn,
Apologies for comparing your House to Phi...Evelyn,<br /><br />Apologies for comparing your House to Philadelphia.You are clearly sharp as a whip and have a good sense of humor. <br /><br />I'll upgrade you to Pittsburgh in the spirit of generosity. After all, its almost Christmas (relatively speaking).<br /><br />Over at the ED blog --you are working with both an impossible subject and an impossible audience.<br />Glad I'm not you, xoxo.<br /><br />You might consider belting borscht as an alternative. Though i assume you ARE drunk when you are penning that stuff.<br /><br />Are you a formal devotee? If so you might try convincing Michael Macy to get you a copy of Adi Da performing the Scapegoat book. <br /><br />He actually performed it with Mel playing Evelyn in full regalia and others chiming in.<br /><br />No matter how many ways you've seen him you will never see him the same again. Way, way, Krispy Kreme kool.<br /><br />Perhaps the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed. <br /><br />And like you, from how versed you are in his literary word, I have been deeply steeped in him for a concentrated period of time.<br /><br />Thanks for listening to our back and forth. You clearly have a fine noggin and its neat to know cool people like you are out there ---<br /><br />Got a feeling you're good people,<br />even if your position in the dance of musical chairs is not altogether self-evident behind your masquerading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-86798710186069770012011-03-23T13:17:25.941-07:002011-03-23T13:17:25.941-07:00God or Reality (words) revealing itself that fully...God or Reality (words) revealing itself that fully feels like love to infinity. I'll buy that description.<br /><br />No need to respond. Thrown too many words at you in the past couple.<br /><br />When you get a chance, share with me:<br /><br />Have you found it with another Ishta? Have you found it independent of the two armed form of the no armed form?<br /><br />I ask with all sincerity. In hopes that the answer is a resounding yes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-79318669887423358942011-03-23T13:02:12.175-07:002011-03-23T13:02:12.175-07:00BY,
There is something rather charming about you,...BY,<br /><br />There is something rather charming about you, I can't quite put my finger on. <br /><br />How can I say I totally love your smarts as I do when I feel you completely miss the ball on a rather fundamental Theme? <br /><br />I guess I just have to remember how easy it is to hate Him from a certain angle of the famous room of every perspective that he inhabits -- in his way so to say.<br /><br />True enough to me said, oh but what a shame to have said it.<br /><br />We should be in a neighborhood war after all. Yet, I am more moved to enjoy you than anything. Adi Da playing Not Two tricks no doubt, with two of his more curmudgeony coins.<br /><br />What you said below gave me a warm smile, since I'm the one whose supposed to be loose with words:<br /><br />"The atma-shakti has not been trademarked to my knowledge. And yes, it is widely available wherever the need is there."<br /><br />His gift is actually Atma Nadi Shakti not atma-shakti (you don't want to get caught in the sixth stage error now do you) and I think you mean patented as opposed to trademarked.<br /><br />Knowing us at Adidam, It probably is trademarked! <br /><br />As to its being patented, now that's a given.<br /><br />And you're darn toot'n "it is widely available wherever the need is there" --- though we no doubt would not converge in deciphering either Causality or how it may best be Sourced.<br /><br />Totally dug, and felt your description of Atma Nadi Shakti in stumbling upon it for the first time yesterday in a post of yours from late '07. <br /><br />That was so much the way I have described my first time, that it made my hair stand on end and catch flame. <br /><br />Three years ago I met this gorgeous thing at Cal where, you can believe it or not, I was studying with the firm intention of becoming a ninja styled "deprogrammer" -- what they call "exit counsellor" these days. <br /><br />I fancied myself becoming a new millennium Ted Patrick. Can you imagine someone with him as your childhood idol? I'd always known what I wanted to do -- a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses for parents -- you get the picture. <br /><br />So I go to pick up Stella (yes as in starlight) and as we are ready to depart her dorm room, heading out to Blakes, I catch the eye of a painting. I think the painter's name was Studart. <br /><br />As god is my witness, the moment I glance at the image is the last really conscious moment I have for the next six hours. <br /><br />Stella, who held my hand for the entire time (so she claims) later told me that the picture was her favorite growing up and that her mother had just given it to her and that it was a portrait of someone named Franklin Jones who she wasn't familiar with. <br /><br />She never explained how it seemed ordinary enough to her for a guy on a first date to lose consciousness for six hours, but my sense was that she was accustomed to having that effect on the weaker sex, independent of the influence of proximate murtis.<br /><br />With all my extant study of cultism at the time, I'd never heard of Franklin under that name and the picture looked like your average eighteen year old college boyfriend anyhow.<br /><br />I Googled him when I got back in the wee hours of the morning (what a night!) and the rest is history I needn't try you with. Roughly more of the same. I mean delightfully. I mean roughly.<br /><br />But back to this first experience of Adi Da's Atma Nadi Shakti transmission. I wouldn't characterize it like recording tape, but you must realize I grew up in the digital era. <br /><br />My mind spun so fast, I remember thinking, "has Taz (from the Loony Tunes cartoon) taken over my brain?"<br /><br />Suddenly a pillar of light like a ton of bricks opened my head as if it were made of marshmallow. <br /><br />The energy flowed down in a reverse S curve via the front of the throat, finally coalescing in a pinpoint in the right side of my chest. <br /><br />cont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-71582530489904415952011-03-22T17:23:46.697-07:002011-03-22T17:23:46.697-07:00My apologies for shutting down the comments, but M...My apologies for shutting down the comments, but My Hugeness was not being sufficiently worshiped and you know how grumpy that makes me! <br /><br />By the way, Anon, I'd sure like to see that video of The Scapegoat Book - I can't even find a written version of it. Can you be bribed? :-)<br /><br />Enjoying the comments!Evelyn Diskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07150071134238896380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-39729224101757641642011-03-22T16:45:36.246-07:002011-03-22T16:45:36.246-07:00Hey, that's quite a response. Like it a lot. T...Hey, that's quite a response. Like it a lot. Too much in there to address here though. But, I've been thinking of doing a response to Elias' asking me about the difference between the early and late Da, and which is the "real Da", and so I thought I could work up a post on that, and try to respond to your various rambling points at the same. So we'll see what I can come up. <br /><br />Anyway, much appreciated. There definitely are some interesting people still left in Adidam, even if we don't hear from them much, and they get drowned out as always by the institutionally correct types. Dell though? Come on, isn't she heavily over-rated and more than a little delusionally disassociated? I mean, look at what went on with her hubby and all those hundreds of chicks it turns out he was banging on his sales trips. Funny folks, sure, and definitely mystically oriented, but not exactly Divinely ordained saints. <br /><br />It would be nice to believe that Adidam is full of secret saints bringing down the light, but I'm not so sure its anymore true there than in the rest of the world. Most famous spiritual people aren't even remotely real, much less impressive, and there are probably lots of virtual unknowns who are doing real sadhana. I would love to know that there's some in Adidam, just as there are elsewhere. I just don't see why one would have to join Adidam or relate to Adi Da as Guru to become one. The atma-shakti has not been trademarked to my knowledge. And yes, it is widely available wherever the need is there. <br /><br />As for the Evelyn Blog, it used to have comments, but they were taken down after my visit, due directly to the ruckus I instigated. The owner of the blog wrote me one day to tell me my name had come up in the comments section, and so I dropped by and got into it with a couple of active devotees there. One was a bit hostile at first but quickly loosened up and we had a great exchange, one of the best I've seen from a devotee. The kind of thing Adidam's mission should be all about but of course can't ever get that poker out of their ass to even come close to. (That's the guy I thought you might be) The second was a firm and faithful believer in the imaginary disease, and he tried to insist I had it too, and when I told him I didn't and that he didn't need to practice under that assumption either, he got increasingly hostile, and it being a Mummery blog after all, I played it up, and the owner of the blog got deeply offended and shut the whole thing down to protect his reputation. All in good fun as far as I'm concerned, but as you say, there's not much going on there. People get very strange when things start to get real.<br /><br />Anyway, good to hear from you and I'll see what I can come up with out of my twisted little heart. Keep the guns locked and loaded.Broken Yogihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257804418740860542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-73497969908690789092011-03-22T13:50:44.956-07:002011-03-22T13:50:44.956-07:00This exhibits a courage of prapathi that is rare a...This exhibits a courage of prapathi that is rare anywhere.In any so called temple or Temple.I'll buy hook, line, and sinker, your demand to experience hook, line, and sinker to commit to anything so apparently whacked, even in spirit.<br /><br />Let me put it another way. Strangely, I trust the weighing you've made of "your experience" of Adi Da more than that of most devotees I know, including myself.That is not to disparage us. Discriminative intelligence is a karma. In its non-perfected form perhaps both an asset and a liability.And weighing experience and its concomitant reflection can be cumbersome.In the end we no doubt agree -- thank god for the Beauty that passeth all understanding -- where ever we may find Her. <br /><br />I love waiting on him to show himself in a way that in essence dares him to his face to supersede my resistance -- what he terms as the core of the way -- searchless beholding.Its weird, how can I put this, it doesn't even require receptivity in a way. Surrender is no longer a living notion in Adidam.<br /><br />You are right, Adi Da doesn't have a shot in Hell of taking the world by storm or even by divine drizzle.<br /><br />That is unless His Divine Presence has become magnified since his mahasamhadi as he said it both would and would continue to -- more and more. <br /><br />You wouldn't believe how true this is -- pun intended. Just watch. One doesn't even have to be all that open to it if my experience is any measure.One who was seriously dogged by his harping and demands before I met him. One who doesn't "care for" him a heck of a lot more than you do -- no doubt. Still, still, still ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-31602526357944877522011-03-22T13:50:04.342-07:002011-03-22T13:50:04.342-07:00Oh how I wish I made the rules. Specifically the e...Oh how I wish I made the rules. Specifically the esoteric ones. <br /><br />Even Turivanamalai (sp) chose to pummel Ramana in the guise of playmates prior to the point of his giving up the ghost of his youth. And who knows what the hell his past lives held in terms of Varmints.<br /><br />Makes for quite the challenge in (to borrow a phrase from your Evelyn Disk) separating shit from shinola. I have paid serious attention to and agree with the well conceived criteria (while adding the above caveat) that you have used in drawing your retrospective conclusions about Adi Da and Adidam. Especially your core demand that the way prove itself to your face.<br /><br />I hope you don't mind if I refuse to argue with what I am in such full agreement with. <br /><br />I largely trust the exemplary sincerity that you've "undertaken" in your samyama -- even if I would prefer to be talking to the pre- "undertaker" version of you. That one, complete with his comparitive certainties, doubts, and "already-opened heart" disposition.<br /><br />What spooks me in knowing as you do how patterns-pattern, is that as time has gone by you have been less and less open to your direct experience of His Condition. Fuck Pandora's Box -- pun intended with the cultic falseness of that ordinary hope and fuck idealistic self generated, self-satisfying, self-styled proclamations of you should believe as I do from whatever corner it may creep -- including island temples.<br /><br />Believers who attempt to convert non-believers into believers should be crucibled. They are almost as bad as the "non" version of the same. <br /><br />Ah, the Church of the new Lightmind, that gateless gate --- what I'd give for one in the bunch who "gets" Adi Da and has worked the alchemy of doubt as prima materia --- in the manner of say a below average Christian saint. As a fuckin' experiment in change of pace if nothing else. Otherwise, can you imagine repeating that dharma for eternity?! Dante, get back.<br /><br />On the third hand -- of course, smart money, how could it be anything but placed on the doubt bet when it comes to Adi Da -- outside of the one known in the vision of his transcendental state. Hell, I'll take the nay bet. Getting cyberspace's jury of our peers to agree -- heck, if I would why wouldn't they? <br /><br />Even in the face of sensitivity to the off the charts transmission that can be felt in response to Adi Da's characteristic spiritual presence, I'd bet against that as well as "the experience" of proof of either his divinity or the efficacy of his gifts.<br /><br />Just like he said and not merely in the manner that he said ('cause I can't really remember him clearly delineating the difference verbally) the horse, I mean the body, knows the difference between reception of cosmic shakti and atma nadi shakti and mindless non-duality and Mindless Non-Duality as a transmitted gift. Ganga Ji get outta the tent. What did Twain say the difference was between a lightening storm and a lightning bug?<br /><br />Yes, he is both depictor and granter of his gifts. He would say he is even the recipient. Talk about megalomaniacal. Still, I'll have what she's having. <br /><br />Honestly, it doesn't matter what he says when the God pie is in your face. Room for doubt. Only, if like the wanker Ramakrishna one only entertains it in order to magnify the reception. And we are not talking about that kind of reception anyway.The Self doesn't magnify. At best, the self yields.Or so it seems.<br /><br /><br />God damn, first hand experience that comes with the enzyme of bullshit detection is as rare as a ducks tooth but as undeniable as the original rose that was the rose that was the rose.<br /><br />The to me wisest and most telling thing that I've ever heard you say is that all your criticism would wilt in the face of your discovering truly the efficacy of Adi Da's offering in a way you found believable. <br /><br />cont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-60678526509899255562011-03-22T13:48:15.231-07:002011-03-22T13:48:15.231-07:00There are more people than you might imagine in Ad...There are more people than you might imagine in Adidam who are being pillared by the transcendental realism of atma nadi shakti (the Way of the "Heart" is so old school). <br /><br />Do you remember Dell? There are quite a number of Dells in the dells out there now who are genuinely alive in their spiritual recognition of Adi Da beyond the (I agree with you and Him) despicable believer's and doubter's mind. Many of them are not prone to say'n much. Like Kirosawa or Eastwood characters still holding up in Okinawa.Look out at night in your sky of mind, yeah, that's them eyeball raping you and me for the fun of it.<br /><br />Like you I have made a fairly exhaustive (hence exhausting) study of the theories of cultism and believe as you do that devotees would be well served to study Nathan Schwatz-Salant and the like. To throw in a little Derri da with their Adi Da couldn't hurt -- what can't be hurt. <br /><br />The problem with immersion in the cult of anti-cultism is that that samyama and the "lifestyle" that swallowing it unbridled (I mean un-brided) can reduce one to doesn't take into account the horrible "hair rope over a chasm of fire" that the "left handed" for want of better phrasing, traditions when they are true (which is rarely) utilize.<br /><br />The same ordeal inducing skill sets that tyrannical, despotic, fill in the blank pathological monstrosities are predisposed to wielding are wielded by many if not most bonafide God men. Perhaps the despots conform to less despotic means as a rule. The steely quiet ones I am told are often the worst.<br /><br />It is an absolute atrocity or should one say heresy that the only way often to even distinguish despot from Despot is to let Ignatz hit you with the precise number of bricks and not one brick short.<br /><br />And I am not saying this because it corresponds with the Adi Da line. He is way too intense for anyone in their right mind to trust his word.<br /><br />Tell me your teaching, the show me school adherent says diffidently, so I may list it in my catechism of those things to be certain to doubt. Adi Da, trust me, he likes it that way.<br /><br />cont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-14033520010774171602011-03-22T13:47:01.281-07:002011-03-22T13:47:01.281-07:00The debate about Adi Da's spiritual and person...The debate about Adi Da's spiritual and personal character and teaching methods and the IMO uber-tacky assertions/rationalizations made by both the chocolate and vanilla camps<br />is so horribly prone to reflecting the Heisenbrg effect, when it is accompanied as it always is by te absence of transcendental/spiritual reception, that the whole damn thing is perfectly redolent of those well advertised oil stained garbage bags.Damn mortal packages. Damn Ecce Homos --- shut the fuck up. <br /><br />So shoot me with the gun we are swapping back and forth when I both hold up and hold my nose when it comes to soapboxing devotees whether they be affected, disaffected, or the man in the mirror -- when I opine gun to temple that the whole cacophony of is he or isn't he, did he or didn't he,does it or doesn't it, doesn't just look bad and stink, but sounds like one imagines a John Cage Opus of fingernails on blackboard, or reptilian skeletons square dancing on the tin roof of the brain and all that. <br /><br />Its known when its known when its known -- that's why its called perfect knowledge in Adidam even when in its preliminary form.<br /><br />Adi Da's Atma Nadi Shakti as best we've come to receive it is not cosmic shakti merely. I know this first hand and from what I've heard of you, so do you. How do we know? Because we have experienced the distinctions between the thises and the thats as clear and beyond doubt as our first moment with a box of crayolas first taught us true discrimination. <br /><br />Yogic misinterpretation aside, there is an immediacy in bodily distinguishing the more the variety of religious experience becomes sufficiently varied in his company and out.<br /><br />cont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-81866698910515715002011-03-22T13:42:34.026-07:002011-03-22T13:42:34.026-07:00Checked out Evelyn Disk blog. On a quick thumb thr...Checked out Evelyn Disk blog. On a quick thumb through didn't see any comments of yours or anybodies. A bit of a ghost town altogether. Is there even a there there? All things being equal, I'd rather be in Philadelphia (or is it Oakland).<br /><br />I'll bone up on my W.C. Field's Dharma and let you know. Anyway, enough about Evelyn Disk, never cared for him much anyway -- outside of his Bu Ma manifestation.<br /><br />"In a dream talking about a dream" is how the famous Chang Tzu story really ends. <br /><br />We are all on the same bus -- the one that is headed toward the perfectly Acausal Source Condition of all and All -- the one departing at the end of Jesus Christ Superstar -- the only thing non-kitsch about "the movie". La Di Da.<br /><br />BY, I believe there is only the very slightest perspective difference between us, even as the result of that makes for strange bedfellows. Viagra anyone?<br /><br />I find you a truly energetic presence and a genuinely sincere spiritual seeker. <br /><br />Okay, I didn't mean seeker as in "seeker", but seeker as in one genuinely open to samyama -- at least as much as anyone could hope to be -- shoulder to shoulder at the pond -- or since you don't like the Narcissus myth, beside ourselves in the asylum of the world.<br /><br />Damn, I wish there had been more cogent arguments made over the years to your often honestly open speculations. Especially during the tenure when your vision was less as you yourself have admitted, located in hindsight. <br /><br />Alas, it may be true that the only one up to the new you is the old you. I wish there were a way to expedite your potential offer to tackle the duo. For my sake I mean.<br />Or for the sake of Not Two.<br /><br />Someone as take no prisoners as you couldn't have maintained yourself as closely as you did to His Bodily Human Form if you hadn't been largely opened-eyed to his divinity. Not you. Plenty of others. Not you. For all your anti-cultism,I'll bet cultism never was a big part of your make up. <br /><br />I have a strong sense that you have first hand located the Radiant Transcendental Being in Adi Da's company as advertised and weren't merely experiencing a Benny Hinn yogic version of the kind that some folks of the "lesser variety" are convinced is the "you-always-get- what-you-wish-and-hope-to-get-lets- argue-Adi Da-away" school promoted sometimes on lightgate. <br /><br />If Adi Da is a Fake, he is a fake that is capable (at least in moments) of transmitting perfect non-dual consciousness and as- absolute-as-you-can-take-it radiance, and not as post hypnotic suggestion (except when it is)but as here-you-go transmission. Merely a great yogi (whether deluded or not) my ass. Acknowledging that I've never heard you demean him in that manner.<br /><br />I hope and believe you can still confess "the vision" if nothing at least in retrospect -- 'cause it makes the conversation and opportunity for bashing some now-and-then deserving Daist and/or Hater in their "knower" posturing -- so much the more gratifying.<br /><br />cont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-18501459509119740772011-03-21T17:24:46.703-07:002011-03-21T17:24:46.703-07:00I guess you just sound a bit like the other guy - ...I guess you just sound a bit like the other guy - not a fundamentalist, and with a sense of humor. There can't be too many of those in Adidam who also follow my blog. (I mean, like, <i>nobody</i> reads this thing).<br /><br />Zebras seem like the perfect animal for Adidam - black and white, with no grey. <br /><br />Have never read, much less heard Da read, the Scapegoat book. Haven't read much of anything Da for years now. The thought occasionally comes to me that I ought to one day get a copy of the Aletheon and do a final and mammoth book review as a way of looking back on the whole thing for some kind of final exegis. (You want rambling?) But who has the time, or the interest? I mean, does anyone actually read that book anyway?<br /><br />Now, going back to Adidam as a white Knight to fight off the chocolate boys, there's a fun project. Maybe when I'm an old geezer who can't help his contrarian ways, that would be a great way to confuse everything all to hell. But will there be anything left to defend by then anyway? My impression is not of Adidam being scapegoated and martyred, but of it just wandering off to die of neglect in the woods. Like narcissus.Broken Yogihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257804418740860542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-19345049324778570672011-03-21T13:45:37.995-07:002011-03-21T13:45:37.995-07:00Hello BY,
I'm not familiar with the Evelyn Di...Hello BY,<br /><br />I'm not familiar with the Evelyn Disk blog. I'll Google it and check it out. <br /><br />Yeah, shoot me too. <br /><br />I think I'll take a vacation from blogs. Maybe I'll break the bank and splurge on a subscription to National Geographic. I saw the cover article last month featuring zebras and entitled, "How They Really Earn Their Stripes" or watch a CD of Adi Da performing The Scapegoat Book. Fenagle (sp) a copy if you dare. I personally guarantee that after a single viewing you have no recourse but to return to being the grand inquisitor of the Chocolate forces that you were in the more entertaining days of the Wilber Forum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-81183011668370045412011-03-21T11:31:30.843-07:002011-03-21T11:31:30.843-07:00Second Anon,
I generally agree with what you say....Second Anon,<br /><br />I generally agree with what you say. This Greg Wells fellow doesn't do a very good job, in part I guess because he's an "inmate" of the Institution, and that does tend to drive people a little crazy over time. He's not representative of everyone in Adidam by any means, but he is a good example of a certain kind of mindset one finds there with some frequency, especially among those in authority. I certainly knew people like him in Adidam, and people who couldn't stand people like him. You're probably one of that second group. <br /><br />As for my ramblings, yes, of course I ramble and go on and on about this way past what it probably deserves, using this conversation as a springboard for a number of thoughts on the general subject. That's what I do here on whatever the hell happens to stimulate my mind. I mean honestly, shoot me and put me out of my misery. <br /><br />And yeah, I do get pretty tired of the Adidam biz, but every once in a while something like this comes to my attention, and for some reason I have to say something about it. And no, this isn't a makeup letter to Elias. He and I are fine and respect each other regardless of what we've said. He knows that and I know it. I was just genuinely impressed, especially given Elias' history with this sort of thing, with how he handled himself here. There was a time when if someone was acting like this Greg guy, he'd just pop off and show him the back of his hand. So I think when people show growth and maturity it's worth praising. Just as I would praise the same in any Adidam folks showing this. Just as I think I've praised you before (if you are the same fellow I had a little give and take with at the Evelyn Disc blog recently).<br /><br />The other thing worth mentioning is that this fellow was not simply acting alone. Several other devotees piped in on the conversation and gave him complete support and praise. No one made any comments to him like, "Hey, Greg, you're making an ass of yourself." So while not everyone is like this in Adidam, a lot of Adidamers do seem to like this way of relating to outsiders. And those who disagree tend to remain silent and not rock the boat, because they know they might face some consequences if they did.Broken Yogihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257804418740860542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-22726117137550947532011-03-21T10:53:34.096-07:002011-03-21T10:53:34.096-07:00The devotee under discussion seems rather self-inv...The devotee under discussion seems rather self-involved and seems to come off like he has cornered the market on Adi Da. <br /><br />I don't think he represents Adi Da well, nor do I think he would get away with his self-importance number if anyone who new Adi Da spiritually was monitoring his (as Elias astutely pointed out) phariseeish quoting of scripture shdick (sp). <br /><br />But that is just my opinion. As for Elias, he isn't being very upfront about where he is coming from in his supposed "open hearted" exchanges. <br /><br />As for you, yeah, you sure as heck have a lot to say and extrapolated from soup to nuts --- for someone who only read one half of an abridged dialogue --- sheesh brother, I expect more from you than that. If I may extrapolate,it felt like a make-up letter between you and Elias (with Wells an -- albeit perhaps deserving -- scapegoat).<br /><br />Fact is, I know you don't care enough about some loudmouth, even if he is on "the Island" being perhaps insecure, defensive, and grandiose, to spend as much Internet ink as you have on a subject you yourself have confessed to be so tired of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-46958346212066245402011-03-21T10:27:15.162-07:002011-03-21T10:27:15.162-07:00Very happy to help you get some much needed rest.Very happy to help you get some much needed rest.Broken Yogihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257804418740860542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20670916.post-7488873053268898352011-03-21T08:04:21.342-07:002011-03-21T08:04:21.342-07:00Talk about "rambling on"! Geez. . .
Re...Talk about "rambling on"! Geez. . . <br /><br />Re: engaging you: No, don't want to get engaged to you. Just want to confirm for other readers that someone else out there feels the same as they do, when they fall asleep halfway through your diatribe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com